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		<title>By: Bryant Kasprzak</title>
		<link>http://carlsafina.org/2010/02/10/corporate-money/#comment-2465</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryant Kasprzak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent! If I could write like this I would be well chuffed. The more I see articles of such quality as this (which is rare), the more I think there might be a future for the Web. Keep it up, as it were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent! If I could write like this I would be well chuffed. The more I see articles of such quality as this (which is rare), the more I think there might be a future for the Web. Keep it up, as it were.</p>
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		<title>By: wally lippincott</title>
		<link>http://carlsafina.org/2010/02/10/corporate-money/#comment-2464</link>
		<dc:creator>wally lippincott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl,
A little off the mark but just finished &quot;Voyage of the Turtle&quot; as a surfer, biologist and lover of the oceans it was a terrific read. I remember Archie Carr, his wife and the three coeds who worked for him at Torotuga (we called them Archie&#039;s angels). But to the point - the Voyage pointed the way to solutions - the excerpt above oversimplifies the very problems you identify in the Turtle. It is us that are head of the corporations and on the corporate boards - and many of us are the baby boomers as well as the Reganites. Look at the hope most of us had for Obama but we found that we all want something for ourselves but not if it goes to someone else. I realize I am rambling and do not have the power of prose like you but my question is do we like the sea turtle who as you said has the misfortune of breeding in many of the most poverty stricken places but must just continue up the sandy shore no matter what the odds continue to just continue on or is there really a movement that can be created to make things more just and to ensure that all life  -particularly ocean life -have the right to exist? Thanks
Wally</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl,<br />
A little off the mark but just finished &#8220;Voyage of the Turtle&#8221; as a surfer, biologist and lover of the oceans it was a terrific read. I remember Archie Carr, his wife and the three coeds who worked for him at Torotuga (we called them Archie&#8217;s angels). But to the point &#8211; the Voyage pointed the way to solutions &#8211; the excerpt above oversimplifies the very problems you identify in the Turtle. It is us that are head of the corporations and on the corporate boards &#8211; and many of us are the baby boomers as well as the Reganites. Look at the hope most of us had for Obama but we found that we all want something for ourselves but not if it goes to someone else. I realize I am rambling and do not have the power of prose like you but my question is do we like the sea turtle who as you said has the misfortune of breeding in many of the most poverty stricken places but must just continue up the sandy shore no matter what the odds continue to just continue on or is there really a movement that can be created to make things more just and to ensure that all life  -particularly ocean life -have the right to exist? Thanks<br />
Wally</p>
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		<title>By: Lyda Cunningham</title>
		<link>http://carlsafina.org/2010/02/10/corporate-money/#comment-2463</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyda Cunningham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl,

You&#039;re not billed as an economist, but this exerpt from &quot;View from Lazy Point&quot; sure is spot on, with identification of the corporate greed that is devouring our country.

Now the trick is &quot;how to stop the avalanche&quot;.

Out here in Colorado, we use dynamite to head off potential avalanches when we have too much snow.  This saves lives and reduces property damage.

A few months ago the Feds tried to take away the dynamite used for the above purpose.

The Feds backed away when they received a virtual landslide of protest against this action.

H&#039;mmm, maybe there&#039;s an object lesson there.

Regards, Lyda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not billed as an economist, but this exerpt from &#8220;View from Lazy Point&#8221; sure is spot on, with identification of the corporate greed that is devouring our country.</p>
<p>Now the trick is &#8220;how to stop the avalanche&#8221;.</p>
<p>Out here in Colorado, we use dynamite to head off potential avalanches when we have too much snow.  This saves lives and reduces property damage.</p>
<p>A few months ago the Feds tried to take away the dynamite used for the above purpose.</p>
<p>The Feds backed away when they received a virtual landslide of protest against this action.</p>
<p>H&#8217;mmm, maybe there&#8217;s an object lesson there.</p>
<p>Regards, Lyda</p>
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		<title>By: carlsafina</title>
		<link>http://carlsafina.org/2010/02/10/corporate-money/#comment-2462</link>
		<dc:creator>carlsafina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 00:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy,

In the cases i&#039;ve watched, especially logging in the Northwest, it&#039;s not that workers are too busy putting bread on the table; it&#039;s that they&#039;re too loyal to a company that is not loyal to them and feeds them disinformation. In that case (and there are many others, that create the whole tone of the country), they blamed environmentalists for putting restrictions on logging, when actually the reasons the mills were closing is that they were sending logs raw to Japan. From the air I saw mountains of logs on the docks, being loaded into ships bound for Japan, while mills were being shuttered all over the Northwest and the logging companies told workers that the Spotted Owl, Endangered Species Act, meddling enviros, and liberals in general were the problem. In reality, 95 percent of the forests were clearcut, most of the logs exported. And that was that. Only 5 percent were protected. Satellites show that. But that&#039;s not what the loggers and mill workers were told. That&#039;s in my book &quot;Song for the Blue Ocean.&quot;

Writ large, corporations have sent all our jobs to China, India, and elsewhere so they can pay next-to-nothing to unionless sweatshop- and child workers. They tell people throughout the rust belt that liberal regulations killed their jobs, when in fact the causes were de-regulation and moving jobs to poor countries so very rich corporations could get very, very rich at the expense of America.

It’s true that exported American jobs redistribute American wealth and help people who need jobs. But if America, with about 200-300 million people, became the envy of the world by building itself a broad middle class based largely on manufacturing what we all bought and sold to one another, why can’t China and India, each with a billion people, do the same for themselves? If they need our help, American consultants could show them how to create jobs and build an economy. As it is now, we have not only sold out American jobs and created depression throughout our former Midwest manufacturing centers, but China is stealing us blind on U.S. technology—while repressing public information and free speech. That’s not a model. That&#039;s a catastrophe for our country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy,</p>
<p>In the cases i&#8217;ve watched, especially logging in the Northwest, it&#8217;s not that workers are too busy putting bread on the table; it&#8217;s that they&#8217;re too loyal to a company that is not loyal to them and feeds them disinformation. In that case (and there are many others, that create the whole tone of the country), they blamed environmentalists for putting restrictions on logging, when actually the reasons the mills were closing is that they were sending logs raw to Japan. From the air I saw mountains of logs on the docks, being loaded into ships bound for Japan, while mills were being shuttered all over the Northwest and the logging companies told workers that the Spotted Owl, Endangered Species Act, meddling enviros, and liberals in general were the problem. In reality, 95 percent of the forests were clearcut, most of the logs exported. And that was that. Only 5 percent were protected. Satellites show that. But that&#8217;s not what the loggers and mill workers were told. That&#8217;s in my book &#8220;Song for the Blue Ocean.&#8221;</p>
<p>Writ large, corporations have sent all our jobs to China, India, and elsewhere so they can pay next-to-nothing to unionless sweatshop- and child workers. They tell people throughout the rust belt that liberal regulations killed their jobs, when in fact the causes were de-regulation and moving jobs to poor countries so very rich corporations could get very, very rich at the expense of America.</p>
<p>It’s true that exported American jobs redistribute American wealth and help people who need jobs. But if America, with about 200-300 million people, became the envy of the world by building itself a broad middle class based largely on manufacturing what we all bought and sold to one another, why can’t China and India, each with a billion people, do the same for themselves? If they need our help, American consultants could show them how to create jobs and build an economy. As it is now, we have not only sold out American jobs and created depression throughout our former Midwest manufacturing centers, but China is stealing us blind on U.S. technology—while repressing public information and free speech. That’s not a model. That&#8217;s a catastrophe for our country.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Repass</title>
		<link>http://carlsafina.org/2010/02/10/corporate-money/#comment-2461</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Repass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent writing, especially liked the historical analysis of how the government and society has been taken over by big business the past 200 years.  I keep thinking that the voters, most of whom are not beneficiaries of the greed, will finally realize what is going on but they are too busy putting bread on the table to understand, I guess.  Too bad that western civilization generally values materialism above all else.  Thanks for continuing to spread good messages!  Randy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent writing, especially liked the historical analysis of how the government and society has been taken over by big business the past 200 years.  I keep thinking that the voters, most of whom are not beneficiaries of the greed, will finally realize what is going on but they are too busy putting bread on the table to understand, I guess.  Too bad that western civilization generally values materialism above all else.  Thanks for continuing to spread good messages!  Randy</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Hopper</title>
		<link>http://carlsafina.org/2010/02/10/corporate-money/#comment-2460</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolyn Hopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for writing this book! My father spoke of some of what you have included for years. He has now passed on. It is my privilege to pick up his baton and do what I can for wilderness on the land - principally at the moment in Montana and Utah - and to include our water world. You might like Craig Child&#039;s &quot;The Secret Knowledge of Water.&quot; It connects us all.
I hope I can contribute to  the work The Blue Ocean Institute is doing with words and pictures in the future.
The leafy sea dragon I &quot;met&#039; at the Monterey Bay Aquarium recently has sparked my interest in bringing him face to face with our land locked Montanans to see what they are willing to do for oceans.
Thank you again for writing this book</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for writing this book! My father spoke of some of what you have included for years. He has now passed on. It is my privilege to pick up his baton and do what I can for wilderness on the land &#8211; principally at the moment in Montana and Utah &#8211; and to include our water world. You might like Craig Child&#8217;s &#8220;The Secret Knowledge of Water.&#8221; It connects us all.<br />
I hope I can contribute to  the work The Blue Ocean Institute is doing with words and pictures in the future.<br />
The leafy sea dragon I &#8220;met&#8217; at the Monterey Bay Aquarium recently has sparked my interest in bringing him face to face with our land locked Montanans to see what they are willing to do for oceans.<br />
Thank you again for writing this book</p>
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		<title>By: carlsafina</title>
		<link>http://carlsafina.org/2010/02/10/corporate-money/#comment-2459</link>
		<dc:creator>carlsafina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That survey certainly didn&#039;t land in my in-box. Corporational &quot;persons&quot; might think he was. I think he was the most destructive president, and the second-worst president in history. The worst one had to actually have his brother steal the election for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That survey certainly didn&#8217;t land in my in-box. Corporational &#8220;persons&#8221; might think he was. I think he was the most destructive president, and the second-worst president in history. The worst one had to actually have his brother steal the election for him.</p>
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		<title>By: carlsafina</title>
		<link>http://carlsafina.org/2010/02/10/corporate-money/#comment-2458</link>
		<dc:creator>carlsafina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If corporations were &quot;persons,&quot; they&#039;d also have the right to bear arms. Maybe that&#039;s next; corporations with their own armies. Obviously they have no intention of having the same liabilities as real people, or the same responsibilities as real governments. They just want no rules to apply to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If corporations were &#8220;persons,&#8221; they&#8217;d also have the right to bear arms. Maybe that&#8217;s next; corporations with their own armies. Obviously they have no intention of having the same liabilities as real people, or the same responsibilities as real governments. They just want no rules to apply to them.</p>
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		<title>By: carlsafina</title>
		<link>http://carlsafina.org/2010/02/10/corporate-money/#comment-2457</link>
		<dc:creator>carlsafina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s very kind of you. And very encouraging to hear. And no, he did not have me as an advisor; I can&#039;t take any credit for that series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s very kind of you. And very encouraging to hear. And no, he did not have me as an advisor; I can&#8217;t take any credit for that series.</p>
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		<title>By: George Richard</title>
		<link>http://carlsafina.org/2010/02/10/corporate-money/#comment-2456</link>
		<dc:creator>George Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Carl
Thank you again for saying what millions of us want to say but can not or do not (for whatever reasons).  My admiration for your writing skills is increasing exponentially with each book you put out.  When Aaron Sorkin began his West Wing series, he should have had you as an adviser.  Wow, I just thought of something .... maybe he did!  Regards to you and the gang at Blue Ocean.  George</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Carl<br />
Thank you again for saying what millions of us want to say but can not or do not (for whatever reasons).  My admiration for your writing skills is increasing exponentially with each book you put out.  When Aaron Sorkin began his West Wing series, he should have had you as an adviser.  Wow, I just thought of something &#8230;. maybe he did!  Regards to you and the gang at Blue Ocean.  George</p>
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